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PostSubject: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:16 am

What's everyones opinion on this topic? Personally I think that Healthcare should be provided free by our government. Healthcare should be provided to everyone regardless of their status or financial situations.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:54 am

I agree, and I am glad I live in Canada for that reason.

I was talking to one guy from the US the other day who thought universal healthcare is a dumb idea because it causes delays for treatment... which may be true because there are delays for serious treatment (keemo sp???, etc). But I think that basically happens everywhere.

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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:17 pm

It should be...there are millions of people dying just because they dont get proper medical care.

but you know what? if they do provide free medical care to everyone, the treatment will still be like shit...thats a big possibility. you know if people could be sincere in the way they work, then maybe not many people would die.

i mean here, we get a health card, and we still have to pay on most things, even a normal check up. most people cant afford that, so yeah the least the government pigs can do is provide free medical care, seeing all the money they rip off people, taxes or hidden taxes.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:43 pm

Yes I do, governments take your money via taxes and other sneaky means and it should be the right of every taxpaying member of society, as should free education.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:10 pm

It really shouldn't be an issue the way I see it.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:53 pm

It shouldn't, but it is.

Welcome to America. Land of the "free", and home of the rich.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:14 pm

The title of this topic sounds very disturbing for the ears of an average European, because it´s something we (nearly all) have here and from the very first day we start working, we´re paying for it...
Of course, the health system isn´t flawless, but it´s social and even bad healtcare is better than no healthcare at all.

So, the answer is YES, ABSOLUTELY.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:13 am

Agreeing with Sigyn here. Even if it here in Sweden is far from flawless I'm glad we have those kind of rights here.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:54 pm

I also have free health-care, but i rather go to private clinics, because social clinic is emm....not such a good place to have a good diagnosis. a few times i went to see my doctor in social clinic, she only said to me, oh darling just get some more sleep and drink more tee. after, when i went in private clinic and had some blood tests and other stuff, they said: you should be staying in the hospital, so i spend half a moth in hospital for my treatment. So you can see the difference.
Yes, free health-care in my county sucks, but anyway, of course it should be free, available to anyone. Also, doctors should be well paid, they do a really hard job.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:20 pm

Free healthcare is a right because I pay tax for it.

However to ask a more relevant question, as a European, yes, I think it's for the good of society that we have it. Illnesses get treated more and spread less. I'm a believer that anyone working full time, or trying to do so, should be entitled to certain things, and some health care is one of those things. The thought that any rich western country would not provide this for every citizen (and so protect the poor, be it their fault or not, and their children, who are not to blame for the situation) is a little odd to me. Especially when the only nation who seriously debate it is the world's most "Christian" one. Again as someone else said, my country is less than perfect. Actually I'm terrified, but we do look after our helpless. Well in theory.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:22 pm

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It really shouldn't be an issue the way I see it.

Exactly, I'm almost too embarrassed to bring up the fact that here we are the wealthiest most advanced country in the industrialized world and we cant even provide health care for all :wtf: It's a joke!
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:30 pm

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Heat wrote:
It really shouldn't be an issue the way I see it.

Exactly, I'm almost too embarrassed to bring up the fact that here we are the wealthiest most advanced country in the industrialized world and we cant even provide health care for all :wtf: It's a joke!

It´s quite shocking when one reads about the families who had to sell all their property because one of the family members got cancer and needs to be treated...Shocked
I mean, should you save whole your life "just in case if..."? scratch

But with Obama, as far as healthcare is concerned, the silent hope woke up again for you Americans, or?
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:29 am

It should be, just because not having it makes us look completely backwards among all the other rich, western nations. It's just embarassing.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:34 am

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Mysterious Traveler wrote:
Heat wrote:
It really shouldn't be an issue the way I see it.

Exactly, I'm almost too embarrassed to bring up the fact that here we are the wealthiest most advanced country in the industrialized world and we cant even provide health care for all :wtf: It's a joke!

It´s quite shocking when one reads about the families who had to sell all their property because one of the family members got cancer and needs to be treated...Shocked
I mean, should you save whole your life "just in case if..."? scratch

But with Obama, as far as healthcare is concerned, the silent hope woke up again for you Americans, or?

It happens here. People have to sell their whole property when some family member suffer from grave, or serious illness and is needed to be taken abroad. Our country's pretty backdated. And the free healthcare thing..This might happen in my dreams, or maybe a thousand years later. Because I Live in ... Bangladesh Smile Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:36 am

we have like the same life expectancy as all the countries with free healthcare, so fuck it
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:57 am

so many ppl die because they cannot afford their healthcare... you have to either choose death or be in debt that u can never fix...

as long as the doctors get payed good... the service will be good
the downsides are horribly outweighed by the benefits... and rich fucks can still pay for their private healthcare... but too many ppl die because of this it really needs to be changed... just ridiculious we are the last rich country without it
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:30 am

The real answer to healthcare is to just develope EMH technology already. TV science fiction promised me holographic doctors with ATTITUDE!
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:18 pm

I wouldnt say it is my right really, but I would say its something worthn doing for a smart government that wants to do well.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:15 pm

Yes , for me it is obvious.

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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:40 pm

Sigyn84 wrote:

But with Obama, as far as healthcare is concerned, the silent hope woke up again for you Americans, or?

Obamas wish for a healthcare reform in the US is for real, but as long as the insurance companies making profit and have more than a foot inside the healthcare system it will be almost impossible to make change.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:07 pm

Healthcare must be provided to the government.Because i know the some special clinics in here they services were good but it's only for people which have good wealth it has to be for all people.especially a people for living in poverty.And also even İ know myself İ paid for 30$ to stitch a scar for in my arm.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:49 am

American healthcare is bullshit plain and simple. It will never be reformed because of the insurance companies' grasp on the system, as Voggis pointed out. Not to mention the sheep that follow the doctrine they're fed, that paying ridiculous sums of money for treatment is good, but paying a small tax is absolutely evil and a violation of our right to be denied treatment.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:39 pm

Get this : over half of all bankrupcies in the USA occur because people cannot pay back their health bills

For those of you who haven't seen Micheal Moore's Sicko : watch it. Here is the trailer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlDAUKSh9CQ
They used to have the entire documentary on Youtube but I can't find it anymore :/
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:32 am

Health care should be provided free or subsidised to a fair degree. I saw "Sicko" and i must say i am happy that Australia is not like the US.

We pay small amounts for certain things but it is mostly paid for by Medicare which comes out of our taxes.
There is the option to take private health insurance here, but the average person is covered by the public health care system.
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PostSubject: Re: Do You Think Healthcare Is Your Right?   Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:46 am

An average person wants nothing from the government other than security, education and health care. If the government can't provide that then the government is of no use. And I agree with Voggis, as long as the insurance companies have a strong hold on the health care system nothing will change.
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