The Drug Thread

Vaping it might work better. But its more of a powdery substance than a bud so I couldnt use it in my vaporizer.

Dude I gotta get my vape fixed.

Vaporizers work as good as they say?

goose wrote:

If it were my choice all psychedelic drugs would be legalized, if used correctly and responsibly they can be of extremely large benefit, but that's just based on my experiences.

sums it up for me.

Yeah legalize everything for 10 years, it will kill of a lot of degenerates and stupid people and we all know the world have a serious overflow of that kind of people.

I have tried alcohol, marijuana and cigarettes. Yes and I tried them all in that order. I only consume one out of three substances mentioned.

Alcohol is something I drink only in moderation. I guess you wouldn't call it that. I have like one beer a week or 3-4 days a week. The most I'll drink is 2. Two is my limit. I don't get drunk and I have no intentions on getting drunk. I have a story about myself getting drunk.

When I was just a wee lad around the age of 4, I remember chugging my mom's beer while she wasn't looking. I was thinking this was soda. What did I know? I didn't know better back then. Obviously, I got drunk. Now with a small body and being around 3 feet tall, of course I'm gonna get drunk. Now I don't remember that since it was a long time ago and plus you don't remember stuff while you're drunk. So guess what, I've been drunk before and it was an unusually young age.

Now marijuana was the next drug I tried. This was when I was 18. I was best friends with this dude I've been best friends since junior high school. I was going to community college at the time. In between classes, I go with him to smoke some pot. I always wanted to smoke pot since I was in junior high. Though I never had real good access to it until college.

So I'm with my former best friend and we smoke it at his friend's house. We smoke it in the back deck of this guy's house. He rolled it up in a joint and this was the first and only time smoking a joint. My first time smoking ever was not that great. I never smoked in my life, so I did it totally wrong. I didn't inhale properly. I was a complete noob at this, so the guy showed me what to do. Then I finally took two real hits of it. It didn't really effect me that much. I was slightly high... I would do it more times after this. When it was time to go to my next class. I didn't feel right at all.

The next times I smoked weed were through bowls and blunts. I smoked a lot of blunts and I took a lot of hits through bowls. Mostly, I was into smoking bowls. I loved smoking bowls. The one thing I never did was smoke a bong... I dunno why. I never got around to it. The closest I smoked a bong was this thing called the bubbler. Heat knows what this is, I'm sure. I smoked that in the fall of 2003 and I got extremely high. It was over my ex-best friend's house. After that, I pretty much quit. I didn't wanna do it anymore and I stopped hanging out with this guy. Plus he was totally obsessed with drugs and he didn't have a life at all. He was just a druggie bum living in a shitty house with his fat ass mom.

However, I go back to smoking weed for one last time. This was around May 2006 at this chick's dorm at Ramapo College. I smoked my favorite thing, of course. It was a bowl. I took an extremely big hit and I wanted the final time to be the best. This was before a test. I got a 22 on it and she got a 12. It was pretty funny. One of the greatest memories I have college (I dropped out in my senior year...), to be brutally honest.

I'm 100% done with marijuana and I will not do anymore drugs. I made a promise to STK that I would never smoke that or cigarettes (I'll get to that later). It's really not for me. It costs too much, unhealthy and I have better things to do. Plus it's not legal and there's that risk of getting caught with the possession of marijuana and all of that shit. I don't want to be remembered as some guy who got caught with marijuana. I don't want a mugshot plastered on the net saying that I got busted for weed. Even if it was legal tomorrow, I wouldn't go back to smoking it.

Now if weed is your thing, go right ahead and smoke it. I will admit that smoking weed at times was fun. Again it's not good for my health and I don't want to deteriorate my body even more. Plus reading that it's linked with testicular cancer, it totally doesn't make me want to smoke it.

Cigarettes. I tried cigarettes the day after I smoked pot. I smoked a Newport my ex-best friend gave me. It was awful and I hated it. After that I tried other cigarettes from people around the community college campus. I was "bumming" for cigarettes basically. Never bought a pack of cigs ever! And guess what I have no intention on buying 'em. They cost too much money. So you wanna try cigs? Go to my community college campus, Rockland Community College. Someone will glady give you a cig. Which cigarette did I mostly smoke? Light cigs. I preferred them the most. My ex-best friend of many years shared me a Camel Light once and that was the best out of the cigs I smoked. I almost considered in buying a pack of those. Thankfully I didn't, it would have been a waste of money and shit.

Oh yes and there was another thing I smoked. Bidis. Bidis are these laced cigarettes that come in all sorts of different flavors. Usually students in middle school and high school try these since they're very cheap and stuff. They're a lot cheaper than regular cigarettes and they're also much more deadly. I would say it's like smoking 5 cigarettes at the same time, that's how bad they are. I had a friend who would have share 'em with me frequently on campus and in the parking lot. I preferred those over regular cigs. I came to my senses later and realized this was really horrible... I stopped immediately and I didn't want my friend to share his bidis with me anymore.

OK last time I smoked a cigarette. Prepare to laugh. It was one of those small skinny cigs that women smoke. I was once hanging out with a friend and her friend. I wanted to smoke that cigarette for the lulz. I did and it was really retarded.

I don't smoke anymore. I quit cold turkey. I haven't smoked in 4 years. I haven't smoked weed in 3 years. I will be totally clean. BUT I will NEVER be straight edge. No fucking way.

See my sig. We've all dabbled here and there, but if there's one thing I've stuck to, it's my booze. Especially my whiskey n beer.

I don't really see why weed and psychedelics are illegal, though the weed is barely enforced in NZ, and legalization would allow for quality control/assurances that it is what it claims to be. That said, if you take some of anything with a risk and it turns out badly for you, don't expect any sympathy from me. You can take the risk, if it goes out well, sweet, otherwise your loss.

That said, anyone got info as to what long term caffeine addiction does to you?

Edible wrote:

I don't really see why weed and psychedelics are illegal, though the weed is barely enforced in NZ, and legalization would allow for quality control/assurances that it is what it claims to be. That said, if you take some of anything with a risk and it turns out badly for you, don't expect any sympathy from me. You can take the risk, if it goes out well, sweet, otherwise your loss.

That said, anyone got info as to what long term caffeine addiction does to you?

Cancer... Well, i'm just assuming since everything gives you cancer these days.

TheWhiteTiger wrote:

Edible wrote:

I don't really see why weed and psychedelics are illegal, though the weed is barely enforced in NZ, and legalization would allow for quality control/assurances that it is what it claims to be. That said, if you take some of anything with a risk and it turns out badly for you, don't expect any sympathy from me. You can take the risk, if it goes out well, sweet, otherwise your loss.

That said, anyone got info as to what long term caffeine addiction does to you?

Cancer... Well, i'm just assuming since everything gives you cancer these days.

well im fucked

^^me too lol

Looks like I'm fucked as well

Smoke large amounts of dried banana peels dudes

lolwut

were all doomed people...we all are..........

Smoke a stick of butter! I've watched a clip from The SImpsons one day and Homer smokes a stick of butter. That was pretty damn hilarious. It looked like it something from a new episode, since I didn't see it on any of the seasons (1-7) I have on DVD. Oh yeah and there's one episode where Homer actually smokes pot. That is really hilarious! I've only seen a clip of that.

hmmm i love weed.

Me too. urghh. This service sucks me dry. Gimme some.

ok. im a nice person, i can share

I once smoked everything I found in my neighbour's garden.

Let it be revealed that I'm all for homegrowing, my sympathies and support go out to all the people who grow their own weed, my problem is with organized crime and drug trade.

The situation in Finland is pretty ridiculous, think about it, homegrowers and organized crime are pretty much on the same line when it comes to the law. I think people who grow a few plants for themselves/their friends are not in any way worse than people who brew their own beer/wine/etc. The brainwashing effects of "reefer madness" and "gateway drug" are still pretty much in peoples minds all around the globe, and sadly this is not changing anytime soon.

Hard drugs really are a problem, not only because of their destructive nature, but also because of the social side effects like theft, money laundering, violence and so forth. Hard subject to debate on really, drugs have been around for a very long time, for example people have contacted spirits in ceremonies through "creative" drug use, and are unlikely to disappear very soon.

I think it's about time we got a debate started now that Czechoslovakia have decriminalized both psychedelic (cannabis, LSD etc.) and hard drugs (cocain, heroin etc.). It's still illegal to sell but you can now pretty much blow smoke from a joint in a cops face and all he can do is smile back apparently.

mygga_med_stil wrote:

I think it's about time we got a debate started now that Czechoslovakia have decriminalized both psychedelic (cannabis, LSD etc.) and hard drugs (cocain, heroin etc.). It's still illegal to sell but you can now pretty much blow smoke from a joint in a cops face and all he can do is smile back apparently.

did not know that was enacted... guess we are moving in the right direction

I'll just start by saying that Czechoslovakia broke up into Slovakia and the Czech republic in 1993

Under the new law, possession of less than the following amounts of illicit drugs will not be a criminal offense:

Marijuana	15 grams (or five plants)
Hashish	5 grams
Magic mushrooms	40 pieces
Peyote	5 plants
LSD	5 tablets
Ecstasy	4 tablets
Amphetamine	2 grams
Methamphetamine	2 grams
Heroin	1,5 grams
Coca	5 plants
Cocaine	1 gram

Possession of "larger than a small amount" of marijuana can result in a jail sentence of up to one year. For other illicit drugs, the sentence is two years. Trafficking offenses carry stiffer sentences.

Source: http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/613/czech_republic_decriminalization_amounts

A very bold move by the Czechs indeed. It seems the parliament is now going with the theme that drug addiction is a public health problem rather than a criminal one. Actually now the police have a clear guidline to work with, I hope this will cut down hard on organized crime.

scato wrote:

I'll just start by saying that Czechoslovakia broke up into Slovakia and the Czech republic in 1993

thats true i should've pointed that out... but then again i hear it so much i dont even pay attention anymore...


but yeah thats definitely alot better... a guy smoking the shit and a guy transporting 2k kilos of it arnt gonna be treated the same way

Here's a quick news bulletin from Finland how ridiculous the witch-hunt for marijuana is getting here:

The article is in finnish, but I'll run through the main points in english.
http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/artikkeli/Puutarhakaupan+asiakkaiden+kotoa+l%C3%B6ytyi+huomattavasti+marihuanaa/1135252139921

Quote :

Police raided a growstore which is frequently visited by homegrowers of chilis, vegetables, and yes, marijuana, and are under the investigation of promoting drug use. The raid was justified by the police simply because the store sells accessories which are necessary for homegrowing (lamps, grow boxes etc). The police have arrested the owners of the store and have even performed raids to clients homes, simply by going through old registry entries of the store (and thus making them "partners in crime"). In Finland there is still no legislation wheter the equipment in question can be considered "promotion of drug use". Chief inspector Jari Luoto of Tampere police had the following to say: "This preliminary investigation is a kind of precedent. The issue at hand will be weighed in various courts". The sparse information given out was only answered with "The investigation is still in the beginning steps".

Freely quoted and translated by yours truly (If you don't take my word for it -> http://translate.google.com)


Of course there was marijuana found from homegrowers too, the big question that bothers me with this unclear investigation is the following.. How are the police, from now on, going to classify different growing equipment into their "drug promotion" categories. Starting with bags of soil going to various growboxes. This would mean, in an exaggerated example, that gardening would put you under criminal suspicion. Pretty much every gardening company would now be open for a raid.

I won't even start on the breach of privacy which was performed when going through the client records of the store. I've read a few bulletins that there have been some quite baffled chili growers staring at a police team at their door, waiting to raid their homes.

Of course these raids make the stats of the police look nice, but really, what was achieved with this? In my opinion, the result of this strike is quite the opposite that the police wanted to achieve. This is the prime example of how to drive, for example the marijuana homegrower, back to buying from organized crime.

What's next? Should I sue planet Earth for providing me with soil and the sun for the necessary light? Fuck this

(Just needed to get this off my chest, I feel better now, thanks for asking )

scato wrote:

I'll just start by saying that Czechoslovakia broke up into Slovakia and the Czech republic in 1993

Oh wow, I didn't even realize I wrote that. My mistake.

Thanks for clearing up the rest of the info too!
Personally I think this is a huge step for personal freedom. I do think however that the government should make it legal to sell so the state can have a monopoly on it (and a somewhat control) otherwise this is just benefiting organized crime and drug dealers.